But I'm also a Californian who voted No on 8.
I am a Goth who is a Social Libertarian and every time I try to make progress on this front, a so-called "Gay Rights," advocate attacks the GOP (not knowing the difference between Moderate Republicans like Romney or Tea Party Republicans like Rep. Paul Ryan or Social Conservatives like Governor Huckabee) and makes it harder for Gay Rights to be a bi-partisan effort.
I love women, but I believe every consenting adult should have a right to be happy (which fits perfectly with my philosophy of being Conservative)
I think Dan Savage and others on the Left forget how the system works.
If you do not win in Elections (that is, by putting ALL your voters into a Politico Ghetto), you have to convince the folks who have already won to support your side.
To pass bills in Congress, you need to get Bi-partisan support. So when Dan Savage yells, "Kill all Republicans!" Why should any Republican Legislator support Gay Rights under any circumstances?
Again, I have to teach this lesson to the Left every day: We are not all Social Conservatives.
(I had to tell an HBO Director this ALL THE TIME, he never listened.)
If you call us names, we will defend our (Political) Tribe. Don't insult us, we might listen why your views might coincide with ours.
Gay Marriage is becoming normalized across the States. However, those supporters of Gay Rights are doing everything through the courts rather then courting the public.
|Willie Wonka Meme meets Current Events|
As an example of the push back, the CEO of Chick-fil-a said a stupid thing. I like Chick-fil-a's food. Every Gay Rights advocate wanted to use the power of the State to block CFA. Today, in reports across the fruited plain, CFA is doing very brisk business. Some prognosticators, like Dana Loesch, say this is prep for November.
If all of these people vote in November … WOW.
— Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) August 1, 2012
It jumped from being a Gay Rights issue to a First Amendment issue, that's why it lost.
Let Glenn Greenwald, Liberal, explain:
It’s always easy to get people to condemn threats to free speech when the speech being threatened is speech that they like. It’s much more difficult to induce support for free speech rights when the speech being punished is speech they find repellent. But having Mayors and other officials punish businesses for the political and social views of their executives — regardless of what those views are — is as pure a violation of the First Amendment’s guarantee of free speech as it gets, and beyond that, is genuinely dangerous.
If you support what Emanuel is doing here, then you should be equally supportive of a Mayor in Texas or a Governor in Idaho who blocks businesses from opening if they are run by those who support same-sex marriage — or who oppose American wars, or who support reproductive rights, or who favor single-payer health care, or which donates to LGBT groups and Planned Parenthood, on the ground that such views are offensive to Christian or conservative residents. You can’t cheer when political officials punish the expression of views you dislike and then expect to be taken seriously when you wrap yourself in the banner of free speech in order to protest state punishment of views you like and share. Free speech rights means that government officials are barred from creating lists of approved and disapproved political ideas and then using the power of the state to enforce those preferences.
Thank you Mr. Greenwald for making my point.
If the Gay Rights people want to win, they need to figure out how to win over Republicans, Conservatives (even Social), and Tea Partiers. Yelling at us and calling us names will not do it.
President Obama only switched his views on Gay Marriage before a fundraiser. Where were the protests then?
And if the Gay Rights people want to have any standing, look at how the Muslim brotherhood and Iran treats its gays and then attack Republicans. The difference is so far that its the difference between calling someone a "hack," (the GOP) and a Nazi (Iran).
But Dan Savage does not know how bills get passed or to win people to his side. He is doing more harm to his issue then any Social Conservative.
My question: Why have the Gay Rights advocates forget to court the Public and the Other Major political party in their Country?